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America that can you Nicole dragon who

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the USA America's the greatest land of

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all on a highway or a road along a levee

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for pharmacist leader nothing can beat

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her life is complete or in go make a day

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alright folks today we're getting deep

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with Anthony P author of books such as

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is there life after death

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the out-of-body experience and the

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recently released labyrinth of time the

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illusion of past present and future

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he's also championed the cheating the

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ferryman hypothesis which is quickly

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gaining steam as a possible explanation

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for the nature of the human experience

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he blows more Minds than the US military

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and for the next hour I'm just gonna try

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to keep it together

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Anthony sir thank you for being here

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thank you I love that line that's

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absolutely right I've never been

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introduced in that way before so so

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that's pretty pretty great thank you

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thanks man well uh let's paint a picture

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for the people how did you get started

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writing about such subjects and have

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your theories on reality evolved since

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you started yeah it's um it's an

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intriguing and interesting story in the

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sense that I'm I'm a sociologist

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historical sociologist by background and

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by degree and then I did post-grad at

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the London School of Economics in labor

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so quite a different from the area I

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write about and but what happened was

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around about from ten eleven years ago I

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was in the fortunate position that I'd

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something had been driving me for around

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about six months before to write a book

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now I know most people you know we all

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have this urge to write a book and I

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decided well why didn't you just do it

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instead of actually sitting back and

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thinking about it write a book the

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problem was that you know what on earth

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bit of time just thinking through what I

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and the very first day that I decided to

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start writing I literally was sitting in

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front of a blank computer screen

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thinking okay what can I write about

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them are you going to write fiction

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nonfiction what are you going to do and

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quite a curious thing happened because I

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started to sense something was about to

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happen now I saw a foot from what is

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known as cries rain and classical

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migraine for the people out there that

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have this experience is it's not the

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normal type of migraine in the sense

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that you don't necessarily get a

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headache but what you do get is

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something called an aura which is a

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sensation now with me what happens is my

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fingers start to go a bit numb and my

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lips start to tingle and I start to go

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slightly blind I get what's called a

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scotoma in my eyes it's kind of a

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breakup is of your eyesight so when I'm

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driving and I get these things I have to

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stop the car because I can't drive and I

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know that it's going to go away after

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about half an hour or so but this time

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around something or for very curious

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took place is that I have the

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overwhelming sensation that I have sat

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in front of that computer screen looking

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UK and I'd done it before and it was

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overpowering the sensation was

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absolutely overpowering that as sometime

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in my past I had done this now this is

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an experience I've had many times before

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people recognize it's it's daijobu sure

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state I was relieved to find that a

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headache didn't develop but I had my

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information as you do and I was

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surprised to discover that had only been

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a handful of books written on the

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subject and nobody had really got to

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grips with exactly what was

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open ink when you had a DejaVu sensation

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academic paper with my guy called dr.

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Arthur Funkhouser who is an American guy

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enough but he actually practices as a

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psycho and psychotherapist over there

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and art paper was an attempted

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explanation for DejaVu an arts

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explanation was called the dream theory

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the daijobu and in this he suggests that

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the reason you have a DejaVu sensation

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and the dream is of a future event but

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you forget about it as we do with dreams

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we just forget dreams don't you know you

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the time but what any argued was that we

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subliminally remember them and when we

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dreamed we feel that we're reliving them

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experience of this before now I got in

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contact with art about this and he

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believes wonderful he responded and I

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said this intrigued me because what

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you're suggesting here is something that

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is completely non-scientific you're

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suggesting prec ignition because

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effectively if you have a dream of an

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event that's about to take place that is

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a prank ignition and of course modern

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something that doesn't happen the future

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hasn't happened yet so therefore how can

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you know about it so I started off on a

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loop there about this and I started

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daijobu as a phenomenon I came across

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the concept called the Efron thesis

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and that is that effectively we have two

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information to get the information twice

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theory has been completely blown out the

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water by research by a guy called dr.

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research university leads over here in

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the UK and they found the people who had

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been born blind and had never seen

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anything actually have deja essenti they

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regulating for hearing which is amazing

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twice now this apparently blows the

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explained so what I did was I started

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the DejaVu sensation and it seems that

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migraine in fact there's an amazing book

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York and during a series of books on

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unusual mental states and in this in

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this book on migraine he points out that

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profound deja boo' sensations in the

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cognitive data of the experiences that

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strong they are not the strongest you

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epilepsy or experienced bass have

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profound altered states of consciousness

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fallen they fall out of time time slows

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their past lives they they feel

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hyper-religious they feel of the

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significance in the things around them

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lobe epilepsy and I was amazed to

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myself okay is there a link here and I

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an extreme form of a temporal lobe

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epilepsy in the sense that whatever

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they're perceiving becomes so real that

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things then fell into place because I

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that also involves glutamate and this is

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near-death experience you know this is

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the report that people claim that just

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before if they're about to die or

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cardiac arrest or whatever they feel

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that they think that they have these

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sensations of floating out of the body

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light they have sensations of meeting a

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being of light and they have a sensation

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experiences will play

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makes sense yes I suddenly thought what

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about a scenario that at the point of

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sorry about that I'm never going we fall

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out of time and because people turn on

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say that you know my life flash before

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my eyes but they also say the time slows

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down people under great times and stress

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famous I know people who've fallen are

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forces people who've skydiving mountain

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climbers they all report the sensation

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of time slowing down sure so I pulled it

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together I thought imagine a scenario

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that you're about to die and the

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glutamate and it is a known phenomenon

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glutamate in times of stress floods the

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brain and we know that glutamate slows

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down your perception of time now imagine

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you're just about to die you're in a car

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you about to hit a wall so the glutamate

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flood hits and what does it do it slows

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down your perception of time now people

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claim that their life flash before their

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eyes and I thought imagine a scenario

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that what time is slowed down to such an

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extent that what is a split-second to

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other people could be a whole lifetime

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what if in that lifetime you live your

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whole life in a matrix like recreation

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of your life mini 5-minute in which case

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rather like Thomas Anderson in the movie

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The Matrix before he became neo he's

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blissfully unaware of the fact that he's

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trapped in a matrix and he's actually in

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some form of bat and he's experiencing

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life

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through a computer program

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Meachem he doesn't know but there will

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be occasions when something strange will

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happen where you'll think I've done this

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before

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and I think that's a deja vu sensation I

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think a deja vu sensation or technically

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they Joe Becker already lived is that

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this is exactly what it says on the 10

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it's exactly what the sensation feels

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like but you're remembering something

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because there are cases where

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individuals

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I've now interviewed who have profoundly

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precognitive DejaVu sensations but they

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know what's going to happen for the next

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two or three minutes so clearly it's not

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just a vague recognition over the future

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it's it's actually knowing what's going

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to happen and indeed there is a young

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man who contacted me after my first book

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came out and he has a tumor on his

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pineal grapery pineal gland ins brain

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which is interesting as my next book is

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going to be on the pioneer ground by the

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way in died mental triggers and altered

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states of consciousness so I'll be

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focusing in on that if we get the chance

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I'll talk a little bit about that but

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the intriguing thing here is that this

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young man who is now doing his PhD in

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astrophysics he's a bright lad he tells

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me that when he has deja vu sensations

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he knows what's going to happen for the

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next two minutes he's in this complete

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flux state where he in his mind went

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somebody speaking to him he says the

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words just before they say them in his

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head and I said to him why Chris why

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don't you um tell somebody but you know

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what they're going to do and he said

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something profoundly interesting he said

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I can't and I said why not he said well

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think about it if somebody's going to

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say something and I say to them I know

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what you're gonna say they don't say it

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they say something different in which

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case I've changed the future by my

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action I've actually made the future

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difference the future as it was which is

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intriguing because then I then moved on

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from this in the first book and it's one

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of the things I talk about in the book

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in great detail is that I do the

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neurology of how these memories are

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stored within

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and indeed my latest books develop this

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and I think the memories are actually

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pulled up by the brain from something

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called the zero-point field the quantum

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vacuum and I think that every record of

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every event that's ever taken place and

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in the quantum vacuum again we come back

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to that later so the idea is that when

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you're living your life you're not the

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only person that's recorded your life

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now think about this for a second you

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may have come across something called

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the Everett's many-worlds interpretation

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particle physics

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this suggests that literally universe

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splits into identical copies of itself

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millions of times a second and has been

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doing since the first moments of the Big

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Bang

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this is one of the only solutions they

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have for the observation of certain

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behaviors of service subatomic particles

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again I won't go into details but in my

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book I go into the details of why the

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twinspace experiment why Schrodinger's

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cat why the EPR paradox and many other

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quite esoteric quantum physics things

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that are known by quantum physicists but

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are not generally known by the general

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public or so intriguing but effectively

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what I'm saying is is that there are

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literally trillions of a greg's and

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Anthony's having this conversation

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so there are literally there are

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trillions of great coal words each one

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of them will lay down the record of a

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life that will be subtly different from

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another one so in which case in time

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there will be a record a database if you

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will of every single event coming from

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every single decision that you make

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through the whole of your life so here

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you are in this kind of matrix like

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recreation of your life in the final

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seconds of your life and you're living

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it again but this time around there is a

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part of you that knows you're living it

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again and I call this the diamond

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it's your higher-self it's your spirit

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guide it's your guardian angel it's

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many many things and if you look through

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theory this being has been known for

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centuries Socrates had a daemon it is

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quite intriguing how popular this idea

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is now this daemon knows the future

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because it's the part of you that

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remembers the fact that you live the

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life before now I don't know if you or

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your listeners play RPG games on the

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computer

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no first-person-shooter mobs or you

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things like I don't know the Lara Croft

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thing Tomb Raider yeah yeah okay so okay

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so you're watching you've got Lara Croft

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I mean she's really designed to follow

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it all the time isn't she something

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through their physical shape I think and

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the following Lara Croft round through

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the corridors you play the game for the

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first time Lara comes along she comes

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around the corner and there's plenty big

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monster and it comes over and it kills

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her what happens is you then reboot the

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game and you go back to the start of the

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game and you have Laura going down the

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same corridor but this time you know

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there's going to be a monster around the

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corner so what you do is you either make

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sure that Laura is prepared for it with

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a weapon or she goes in another route I

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think this is what happens in real life

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I think that what happens is that you're

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living your life and your daemon

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remembers the events of your last life

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where you were injured or you were

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killed and it will try to warn you to

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make sure that you don't make the same

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mistake you made last time round now

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this is why people report time and time

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again that they hear a voice in their

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head that warns them not to do something

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they have an inkling and a feeling that

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something feels wrong some people will

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say that they get pushed and pulled in

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certain directions now interestingly

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enough on Facebook literally today

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because I did another interview last

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night and I mention this then I've had

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three or four people contact me on

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Facebook and post on my facebook wall

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events that happened to them exactly as

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I'm describing it now that literally

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something made them stop doing something

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that would have ended up in their death

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now yeah that's great okay now 30% of

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people in the world never ever

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experience deja vu 70% of people do

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those 30% are living their lives for the

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first

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and they are what I call either lungs

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this is the lower self so the Laura

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Croft on the screen is a needle on the

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daemon is the game player okay but the

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difference is in reality for want of a

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better term is the game player can't

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move the body of the sprite on the

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screen as fright moves itself it's more

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analogous to being in a car and the edad

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is the driver and the daemon is

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passenger the daemon can only warn and

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advise but it can't change you

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physically moving your body except on

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the very very curious circumstances for

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instance sometimes where people have

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split brain operations and suchlike so

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this is how these warnings occur this is

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how the daemon is precognitive and this

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is why and it is fascinating this that

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the older we get the incidence of danger

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and the reason for this if you think

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about if you apply my hypothesis is

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perfectly reasonable because as you go

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through life there's going to be more

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times where your daemon will have an

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opportunity to effectively save you from

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an event and effectively turn you off

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one round or down a rock a corridor

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that's completely new so the daemon

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won't remember it either and neither

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will you so you won't have deja boo'

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sensations because you're living a brand

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new life now this overall concept is

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very much in the zeitgeist now because

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if you think about some of the movies

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would have been adding in the last 10 or

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15 years that deal with this subject I'm

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thinking about Groundhog Day living the

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same day over and over again because in

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my hypothesis I argue at the end of the

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second life do it again and again and

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again just like Phil Connors in the

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movie Groundhog Day does in fact as an

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interesting aside the the writer of

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Groundhog Day

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a guy called Danny Rubin who's an

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academic at Harvard has given copies of

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my first book to virtually all his

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friends because he said this guys are

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the signs a Groundhog Day in fact I'll

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be interviewing Danny on my own radio

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station in January next year when we'll

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be talking about the backgrounds why he

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wrote Groundhog Day the way he did so

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that's the overall model the first

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book is there life after death

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extraordinary signs of what happens when

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you die so that's for how I started to

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get into writing the second book the

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damon was an expansion on this idea of

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this duality this Damon and a DeLong

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idea and I go into the neurology I I

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cite a lot of examples of people who

539
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read my first book which by the way now

540
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has sold around about 37,000 copies

541
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worldwide and be translated into foreign

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languages and everything because because

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it resonates with so many people because

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people yes I make the dardan go crying

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to silent you know I never thought about

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it that way but it makes sense okay so

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the Damon in the ADA lon book the Damon

548
00:23:45,370 --> 00:23:41,990
book describes all that my third book is

549
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:45,380
then dealing with the elements of time

550
00:23:52,260 --> 00:23:50,210
and time perception and how it is the

551
00:23:54,460 --> 00:23:52,270
time can slow down under certain

552
00:23:56,740 --> 00:23:54,470
circumstances and why it does this

553
00:23:59,920 --> 00:23:56,750
neurologically because one of the new

554
00:24:01,870 --> 00:23:59,930
FAFSA fees I've always had is is that

555
00:24:03,670 --> 00:24:01,880
and it's not my original line the

556
00:24:05,770 --> 00:24:03,680
original line Ken was cited by an

557
00:24:07,690 --> 00:24:05,780
Italian researcher and Col sound and

558
00:24:09,130 --> 00:24:07,700
it's famous for using the line is that

559
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:09,140
extraordinary claims need extraordinary

560
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:12,170
proofs so when people read my books you

561
00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:13,760
will find that every single thing I

562
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:16,550
reference is referenced back to original

563
00:24:21,340 --> 00:24:19,130
academic papers its reference back to

564
00:24:23,770 --> 00:24:21,350
the source material there is nothing in

565
00:24:26,980 --> 00:24:23,780
my books that I don't invite my readers

566
00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:26,990
to go back and check for themselves you

567
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:28,520
know because he's profoundly importance

568
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:30,170
you know I'm not somebody who's

569
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:32,570
pretending one channeling information

570
00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:34,970
from the planet fog and not something

571
00:24:38,350 --> 00:24:36,860
that's in tune with aliens are not

572
00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:38,360
somebody that claims to be a

573
00:24:42,190 --> 00:24:40,670
reincarnation of somebody else I'm just

574
00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:42,200
an ordinary guy with an extraordinary

575
00:24:49,150 --> 00:24:46,760
idea um and this is why the idea has

576
00:24:51,850 --> 00:24:49,160
resonated with so many people because of

577
00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:51,860
that you know it's it's we call the

578
00:24:56,410 --> 00:24:54,230
overall concept it lad which is just the

579
00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:56,420
initials of it is there life after death

580
00:24:59,890 --> 00:24:58,370
then there are thousands of people

581
00:25:01,600 --> 00:24:59,900
around the world now we call themselves

582
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:01,610
in radians which of the people that are

583
00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:04,370
interested in applying this model to

584
00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:05,700
their lives

585
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:08,550
so that's we are at moment the three

586
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:10,290
books I've written so far there's a

587
00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:11,760
fourth book I've edited on the

588
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:14,580
near-death experience with a pair of

589
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:17,090
Australian consultants psychiatrists

590
00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:20,370
which is a book on near-death experience

591
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:23,430
for clinicians how they identify what

592
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:25,290
near-death experiences and how they work

593
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:28,650
with it um and the book I'm researching

594
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,930
now which i think is going to pull it

595
00:25:38,570 --> 00:25:32,880
all together in the most phenomenal way

596
00:25:39,770 --> 00:25:38,580
is a model that in might the with of

597
00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:39,780
course is another book I've forgotten

598
00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:41,460
about there the out-of-body experience

599
00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:42,780
how could I have forgotten that

600
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:45,660
so many books out recently and the out

601
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:48,480
of the body experience is a scientific

602
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:52,890
and cultural analysis of circumstances

603
00:25:58,370 --> 00:25:55,710
were people claim that they physically

604
00:26:01,280 --> 00:25:58,380
leave their body and Wonder round in

605
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:01,290
three-dimensional space and in this book

606
00:26:06,290 --> 00:26:03,810
I deal with as the body experiences

607
00:26:09,050 --> 00:26:06,300
lucid dreaming which is the most

608
00:26:11,090 --> 00:26:09,060
phenomenal thing to experience whereby

609
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,100
you are dreaming and you suddenly become

610
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,440
a word for fact you were dreaming in

611
00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:15,120
fact it's the the premise that the movie

612
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:17,550
Inception was based upon sure do you

613
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,530
know any good techniques to induce lucid

614
00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:22,080
dreaming and I know a few in the sense

615
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,900
that I'm in contact with one or two of

616
00:26:28,340 --> 00:26:26,400
the world's leading experts on the

617
00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:28,350
subject people I rob a Waggoner for

618
00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:31,590
example and one of the one or two

619
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:33,540
techniques the bend the best movie to

620
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:34,710
watch on this from the north which

621
00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:35,670
actually tells you a lot of these

622
00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:38,750
techniques is a movie called waking life

623
00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:42,630
which was some movie by Richard

624
00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:46,830
Linklater and in the movie you have a

625
00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:50,220
character who doesn't know whether he's

626
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:53,070
awake or asleep and he keeps asking

627
00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:55,290
people to help him and they're all these

628
00:26:58,580 --> 00:26:57,060
talking heads and experts who tries to

629
00:27:01,100 --> 00:26:58,590
describe these things well one of the

630
00:27:05,030 --> 00:27:01,110
things I've been told is to look at your

631
00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:05,040
hands which sounds a strange thing to do

632
00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:08,310
in a dream but if you look at your hands

633
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:10,830
you'll suddenly think to yourself why

634
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:12,930
are you looking at your hands and then

635
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:15,030
you'll think oh because I decided to do

636
00:27:19,220 --> 00:27:17,490
so because when I'm dreaming

637
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:19,230
I need to look at them and then you

638
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:22,290
think so am I dreaming now and suddenly

639
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:23,910
you'll become so I don't be not to do it

640
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:26,010
but away I can't do this but this is

641
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,210
what I've been told and you suddenly

642
00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:29,520
become aware of the fact you're in a

643
00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:33,240
dreamscape in the movie intersection the

644
00:27:38,419 --> 00:27:34,980
central character has something that's

645
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:38,429
called a totem which is an object that

646
00:27:43,970 --> 00:27:41,670
you you take with you into the dream

647
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:43,980
world for instance even if you've seen

648
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:45,690
the movie has a little spinning spinning

649
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:48,570
top and he knows that if the spinning he

650
00:27:53,780 --> 00:27:50,370
spins the top and he knows at the top to

651
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:53,790
the top does not topple it's it's

652
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:57,450
holding up it's easy Great Escape this

653
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:59,010
is a similar technique another one

654
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:00,960
apparently is to switch a light on and

655
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:04,530
off you'll see a light switch and you

656
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:06,510
switch it off and of course it won't

657
00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:09,330
turn off because you can't manifest it

658
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:11,280
in this way and again it makes you

659
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:14,850
become lucid but once you do I you know

660
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:16,890
I deal with this in the book that you

661
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:20,450
you are in this world this illusionary

662
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:23,970
created world but you can you can fly

663
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:26,910
within you can interface with people you

664
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:30,750
can do all kinds of things but the

665
00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:33,570
fascinating thing is who is the

666
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:36,630
choreographer of that world a friend of

667
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:38,130
a friend of mine who lives in Manchester

668
00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:41,730
here in the UK Marc Marc regular lucid

669
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:45,030
dreams and he goes to the same place and

670
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,850
he wanders round this cityscape and he's

671
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:49,679
always said to me he said when I'm

672
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:51,480
walking along the street and I turn a

673
00:29:00,260 --> 00:28:55,770
corner there's a place there that has

674
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:00,270
been created from my mind that I need

675
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:02,910
and he said it clearly is a real place

676
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:06,050
it's not part of my imagination it's

677
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:08,850
structured it has an inner object to it

678
00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:12,000
and it's always the same now Robert

679
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,240
Wagoner made a wonderful example yeah in

680
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:17,360
his book on lucid dreaming

681
00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:21,360
Robert describes once flying over a

682
00:29:26,419 --> 00:29:23,630
group of people wearing tall house and

683
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:26,429
he thought he was so amusing he decided

684
00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:27,990
that he'd knock a couple of the hats off

685
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:30,160
and he goes along as knocks a few of

686
00:29:34,290 --> 00:29:31,930
and he gets towards this guy wearing a

687
00:29:37,230 --> 00:29:34,300
top hat and as he tries to push the hat

688
00:29:38,150 --> 00:29:37,240
off the guy's hands come up and hold the

689
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:38,160
hat on

690
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:41,520
now as Robert says in his book that

691
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:46,810
implied that being knew what I was about

692
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:50,530
to do and try to stop me doing it in

693
00:29:55,050 --> 00:29:52,690
which case as well as Roberts has said

694
00:29:57,570 --> 00:29:55,060
many times now when you're in these

695
00:30:01,380 --> 00:29:57,580
dreamscapes you encounter other people

696
00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:01,390
who are also dreaming and you can tell

697
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:03,670
sometimes the people who are dreaming

698
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:06,240
because they look slightly confused and

699
00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:09,370
you can talk to them and you can you can

700
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:11,350
bring back the radical information

701
00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:13,090
because the person will contact you

702
00:30:17,070 --> 00:30:14,230
afterwards and Robert gives an example

703
00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:17,080
of this where the person will remember

704
00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:19,720
the dream and seeing you in the dream in

705
00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:22,840
the same circumstances now if that's the

706
00:30:27,870 --> 00:30:25,390
case we have a really fascinating thing

707
00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:27,880
to come to terms with because the only

708
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:29,560
reason that you and I believe that this

709
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:32,010
universe that we are in at the moment is

710
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:34,750
consistent and real is that we both

711
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:37,510
agree about the things we see we go to

712
00:30:40,170 --> 00:30:39,010
sleep tonight and you wake up tomorrow

713
00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:40,180
morning in your room is still

714
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:43,030
effectively the same this is consensual

715
00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:46,000
reality and this is why we believe it's

716
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:49,150
real however if somebody else can share

717
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:51,520
your dream with you that's consensual as

718
00:31:01,200 --> 00:30:54,810
well so therefore that is just as real

719
00:31:03,450 --> 00:31:01,210
now there's a guy called Robert M Tom

720
00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:03,460
Campbell who's written a series of books

721
00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:05,380
called my big toe and Tom Campbell

722
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:07,480
worked with a guy called Robert Monroe

723
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:10,630
who was a very very famous person who

724
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:15,610
astral traveled and again Tom in his

725
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:17,650
books mentions many many times where he

726
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:20,770
sure do see dreams with his son and they

727
00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:23,010
traveled together and went to places

728
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:26,740
which then begs the question is this

729
00:31:33,090 --> 00:31:30,250
life a dream because you know I said

730
00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:33,100
that time can dilate and we all know in

731
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:36,520
dreams time expands you know you can

732
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:38,230
have a dream that will take hours that

733
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:39,910
in real the real world and take a couple

734
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:42,580
of seconds imagine that your whole life

735
00:31:45,790 --> 00:31:43,640
is

736
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:45,800
from the moment of your birth the moment

737
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,350
of your death in which case the world

738
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,720
would be consistence and you would go

739
00:31:54,430 --> 00:31:52,880
effectively to sleep in your dream world

740
00:31:57,820 --> 00:31:54,440
and wake up in the dream world would

741
00:31:59,410 --> 00:31:57,830
still be the same because it would be so

742
00:32:01,930 --> 00:31:59,420
in other words the consistency we

743
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:01,940
believe is consistent is only because we

744
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,090
believe the time exists and that we are

745
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:09,440
that this is the only thing that there

746
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:12,830
is that makes sense yeah it does and

747
00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:15,310
this arm ok sorry yeah

748
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:18,380
no go ahead and this is what then leads

749
00:32:22,570 --> 00:32:21,200
me into my next book which because at

750
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:22,580
the end of the out of the body

751
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:25,330
experience book I pull together a

752
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:27,470
hypothesis which I call the in traumatic

753
00:32:30,970 --> 00:32:29,510
model and I believe that what is

754
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:30,980
happening when people ask will travel

755
00:32:36,670 --> 00:32:32,930
when people lucid dream when people

756
00:32:39,940 --> 00:32:36,680
distance you what they're actually doing

757
00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:39,950
is is effectively traveling in inner

758
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:42,950
space they're actually traveling in

759
00:32:51,790 --> 00:32:47,390
alternate realities within themselves in

760
00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:51,800
that what I'm suggesting is that the

761
00:32:58,150 --> 00:32:55,340
human brain itself has structures in it

762
00:33:00,670 --> 00:32:58,160
called microtubules microtubules are

763
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:00,680
very very very very big small pieces of

764
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:02,930
protein that other structures that make

765
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:04,370
up the structures of the neurons of the

766
00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:07,760
brain these very very tiny structures

767
00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:11,230
give off and light they give off their

768
00:33:17,380 --> 00:33:14,390
bioluminescent they give off photons but

769
00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:17,390
light not only that but they're they're

770
00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:24,760
actually strange much sorry about this

771
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:26,870
sorry there's so many desperately trying

772
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:32,450
to get through that the the bio photons

773
00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:35,810
are given off by the sides of these

774
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:38,420
particular structures and again without

775
00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:40,310
going into the depth of the science if

776
00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:42,830
you actually take a series of photons

777
00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:44,900
from one place to another and you pull

778
00:33:48,010 --> 00:33:46,670
them together they call what's called

779
00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:48,020
the cause what's called an interference

780
00:33:53,950 --> 00:33:51,080
pattern now interference patterns are

781
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:53,960
the things that if you use coherent

782
00:33:57,620 --> 00:33:55,650
light like a laser and you

783
00:34:01,490 --> 00:33:57,630
get an interference pattern you create

784
00:34:05,030 --> 00:34:01,500
something called a hologram and we in

785
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,040
our brain have literally trillions of

786
00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:07,440
these structures all creating mini

787
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:10,710
Holograms now what I argue is is that

788
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:13,679
internally and the external world that

789
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:15,330
you're seeing now is in fact a hologram

790
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,510
created by your mind because if you

791
00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:20,159
think about it you never interface with

792
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:22,470
the real world first time in other words

793
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:24,810
the photons come from the outside world

794
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:26,490
they hit the back of your eye the retina

795
00:34:29,780 --> 00:34:28,500
and when it goes through the retina then

796
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:29,790
converted into an electrical impulse

797
00:34:35,810 --> 00:34:32,760
that goes through something called the

798
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:35,820
super cosmic just becoming something

799
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:37,649
other than inside a video build the

800
00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:42,600
brain then goes to the visual area of

801
00:34:48,770 --> 00:34:45,630
the brain and it reconstructs reality

802
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:48,780
now if you look around the room now and

803
00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:50,250
you look at your computer screen and

804
00:34:55,310 --> 00:34:51,600
everything else you look out the window

805
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:55,320
you have this incredibly ornate rendered

806
00:35:00,370 --> 00:34:58,170
version of reality think about this for

807
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:00,380
a second that is being created by

808
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:03,330
photons landing on the back of your

809
00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:06,720
retina in a tiny postage stamp-sized

810
00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:12,900
area that's curved and bent your brain

811
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:15,000
creates from that everything you've

812
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:18,480
received it's a magic trick of the

813
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:21,210
highest order and you talk to people who

814
00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:22,890
research aankhon what's called

815
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:25,470
consciousness studies and perception

816
00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:27,050
series they have an idea how this works

817
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:29,640
they really don't know how we create all

818
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:31,410
this for instance one of the things

819
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:32,850
that's very intriguing if you close one

820
00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:33,690
eye now

821
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:36,360
you still think you're seeing everything

822
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,650
without a break ok what you will know

823
00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:43,200
that at the back of your eye there is a

824
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:46,590
little area where the optic nerve leaves

825
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:49,260
the back of the eye called the bosom at

826
00:35:52,370 --> 00:35:51,930
the blind spot so when you close one

827
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:52,380
either

828
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,130
is an area of blindness but you don't

829
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:58,800
see it and the reason you don't see it

830
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:02,160
is the brain makes up the information

831
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:04,290
from the pieces of information around

832
00:36:09,380 --> 00:36:08,040
the blind spot and fills it in now I

833
00:36:11,509 --> 00:36:09,390
spoke to

834
00:36:15,019 --> 00:36:11,519
an optician about this a few years ago

835
00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:15,029
and he toner this is a professional and

836
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:16,200
he turned around he said no the reason

837
00:36:19,459 --> 00:36:18,089
that you don't see the blind spot is

838
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:19,469
that you have two eyes and you have

839
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:21,390
binocular vision and therefore when you

840
00:36:24,949 --> 00:36:23,609
look at things in over the laps and I

841
00:36:27,289 --> 00:36:24,959
turn round to him and I said so what

842
00:36:30,229 --> 00:36:27,299
happens when I close one eye then and he

843
00:36:33,289 --> 00:36:30,239
looked at me stunned he'd never look at

844
00:36:36,259 --> 00:36:33,299
houses that had never dawned upon him he

845
00:36:38,269 --> 00:36:36,269
just took the received wisdom that so

846
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:38,279
many people do out there they never sit

847
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:40,650
back and think for a second the wonder

848
00:36:45,709 --> 00:36:42,690
what's happening in the brain so you

849
00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:45,719
have this recreated universe and I

850
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:47,700
believe that these microtubules draw

851
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:50,249
this information up from something

852
00:37:02,740 --> 00:36:52,920
called the zero-point field now the

853
00:37:12,910 --> 00:37:05,880
but it is simply what they found is that

854
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:12,920
if you take atoms and you take them down

855
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:14,870
to a temperature just above absolute

856
00:37:20,860 --> 00:37:17,450
zero to seventy two point one seven

857
00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:20,870
degrees Kelvin at that temperature

858
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:23,270
effectively there should be no real

859
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:25,850
energy because that's the definition of

860
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:28,910
absolute zero it's work with big energy

861
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,760
disappears within within atoms they just

862
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:33,680
stop because there is no fair energy

863
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:37,010
okay they have found that they can

864
00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:39,200
reduce things to roundabout one or two

865
00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:41,950
maybe three degrees above absolute zero

866
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:44,750
these objects there's a particular form

867
00:37:50,740 --> 00:37:47,200
of helium I thing I think's helium-3

868
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:50,750
that still remains as if it's got energy

869
00:37:55,810 --> 00:37:53,810
in it if the drawing energy up from

870
00:37:59,020 --> 00:37:55,820
somewhere where there should be no

871
00:38:03,220 --> 00:37:59,030
energy now this is called the quantum

872
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:03,230
vacuum and people are so interested in

873
00:38:07,180 --> 00:38:04,370
this at the moment there is an

874
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:07,190
organization in Boulder in Colorado that

875
00:38:11,950 --> 00:38:10,010
has got authority from the US government

876
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:11,960
to be trying to find ways and means of

877
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:14,210
actually drawing up the energy from this

878
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:18,110
zero-point field now they believe that

879
00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:20,930
the zero-point field is a limit

880
00:38:29,860 --> 00:38:24,350
unlimited amount of energy but this

881
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:29,870
energy energy is encoded in digital now

882
00:38:34,570 --> 00:38:32,450
it means that effectively it's a super

883
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:34,580
duper hard drive it's a super duper

884
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,240
computer program a guy called Ervin

885
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Laszlo professor of in Laszlo who

886
00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:44,210
honored me by writing the foreword to my

887
00:38:47,470 --> 00:38:45,860
last book and in fact Irving last others

888
00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:47,480
being nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

889
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:50,390
twice an urban wrote the foreword an

890
00:38:55,870 --> 00:38:52,430
urban has written a book called a via

891
00:39:00,340 --> 00:38:55,880
Kashuk field and then this he postulates

892
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:00,350
that the zero-point field and zero-point

893
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:02,210
energy are the equivalent of the old

894
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,210
mystic belief system of call the Akashic

895
00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:08,000
record the idea that there is somewhere

896
00:39:12,340 --> 00:39:10,790
that that everything that has ever

897
00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:12,350
happened and ever will happen is

898
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:13,990
recorded

899
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:16,210
now going back to our computer game

900
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:19,210
analogy isn't that what is happening

901
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:21,609
with the the computer isn't that thin

902
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:23,680
the world of the the sprite on the

903
00:39:29,220 --> 00:39:26,800
screen the avatar I agree as far as they

904
00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:29,230
are concerned all the information for

905
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:33,339
their world is encoded on the cd-rom is

906
00:39:39,359 --> 00:39:36,250
now so everything you a Clara do is

907
00:39:42,750 --> 00:39:39,369
encoded on the cd-rom I think in this

908
00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:42,760
reality everything that we do is encoded

909
00:39:48,859 --> 00:39:46,180
within the zero-point field in which

910
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,869
case we are in a computer program in

911
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:51,280
fact there's so much evidence to assume

912
00:39:56,190 --> 00:39:52,960
it is more likely that we are existing

913
00:39:58,020 --> 00:39:56,200
on the computer program but not in fact

914
00:40:00,300 --> 00:39:58,030
there's been quite a lot of research

915
00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:00,310
done on this very idea and there have

916
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:03,460
been papers written on the concept so

917
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:05,710
suddenly the idea is about the matrix is

918
00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:08,530
certainly not so far-fetched something

919
00:40:11,099 --> 00:40:09,790
we are living in a universe with

920
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:11,109
something make sense and ironically

921
00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:12,160
enough you want to know a nice little

922
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:14,740
coincidence you know the way the corner

923
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:17,050
of sky comes up and it tells you who you

924
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:19,390
know that's online alright professor

925
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:21,430
Irving Laszlo has just come online on

926
00:40:26,579 --> 00:40:24,310
skype synchronize that it is we are we I

927
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:26,589
call it sinker and dippity it's not

928
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:28,450
necessary misty but it's significant

929
00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:31,599
synchronicities that means something and

930
00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:32,920
that's the kind of thing that happens

931
00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:34,780
with us it laddy ins all the time it

932
00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:37,780
just happens get used to it so here we

933
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:41,800
have an overall model of how how dreams

934
00:40:47,490 --> 00:40:44,650
work how reality works how perception

935
00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:47,500
works but my next book is going to take

936
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:50,470
it to a whole different level because I

937
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:54,880
believe that the substance in the brain

938
00:41:00,450 --> 00:40:57,250
that facilitates this communication is

939
00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:00,460
an endogenous that is internal generated

940
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:03,339
dimethyltryptamine which is generated by

941
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:06,970
the pineal gland in the brain and I was

942
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:08,530
actually going to ask you sorry to

943
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:09,430
interrupt you but what is the

944
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:12,430
relationship between this glutamate that

945
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:14,290
you mentioned and DMT because I thought

946
00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:18,310
it was DMT that are released at the time

947
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:19,390
of death or I thought that was the

948
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:22,210
speculation that I'm that that is the

949
00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:24,310
the leader the physician put forward by

950
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:27,240
Rick Strassman and I've got no reason

951
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:30,030
question that when my initial model when

952
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:32,670
I pulled my initial model together and I

953
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:35,460
always say to people this year this is a

954
00:41:40,850 --> 00:41:38,490
work in progress this is not a

955
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,860
definitive in other words I am finding

956
00:41:45,530 --> 00:41:42,960
and discovering things over the last 10

957
00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:45,540
years that I always incorporate into the

958
00:41:49,580 --> 00:41:47,400
ideas I reject other things and suddenly

959
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:49,590
don't make any sense anymore because

960
00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:51,330
it's not like I'm not being doctrinaire

961
00:41:57,980 --> 00:41:54,950
on this no effectively it's an ongoing

962
00:42:00,380 --> 00:41:57,990
hypothesis now initially glutamates

963
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:00,390
seemed to be the main cause of this and

964
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:03,150
the time slowing down but I'm more

965
00:42:06,590 --> 00:42:04,710
coming to the conclusion that it may

966
00:42:09,530 --> 00:42:06,600
actually actually be done little trick

967
00:42:11,330 --> 00:42:09,540
to me and I'm doing a considerable

968
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:11,340
amount of research on this I'm talking

969
00:42:16,070 --> 00:42:12,690
to some of the world's leading experts

970
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:16,080
on dimethyltryptamine there's a whole

971
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:19,170
list of them of individuals who have

972
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:21,690
either researched it directly

973
00:42:29,060 --> 00:42:24,090
I've got down to Latin America and taken

974
00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:29,070
ayahuasca have gone on DMT trips or have

975
00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:31,560
literally do calculated the neurological

976
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:33,480
pathways and the neurochemical pathways

977
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:37,050
within the brain now the case is quite

978
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:41,040
strong because although people will

979
00:42:45,770 --> 00:42:43,550
argue that they've never actually found

980
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:45,780
dimethyltryptamine in the brain that's

981
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:48,090
not entirely true they have found our

982
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:50,750
nettle trip to me but in a dead brain

983
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:53,130
dimethyltryptamine does exist within the

984
00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:55,470
body but it's whether it's active within

985
00:43:01,700 --> 00:42:58,260
the brain because they have found as

986
00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:01,710
well there're a group now of receptor

987
00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:03,900
cells in the neurons of the brain called

988
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:06,660
the tars the trace I mean something

989
00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:08,970
receptors and these receptors are

990
00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:13,020
designed they are like keys none of our

991
00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:15,950
like locks and the design of the lock

992
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:20,030
mirrors the key of dimethyltryptamine

993
00:43:25,570 --> 00:43:22,170
because dimethyltryptamine being at

994
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:25,580
being a trip to me has a particular um

995
00:43:32,810 --> 00:43:30,240
molecular structure and this molecular

996
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:32,820
structure very similar to serotonin it's

997
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:35,310
very similar to melatonin because these

998
00:43:38,810 --> 00:43:36,270
are all tricks means

999
00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:38,820
so therefore DMT

1000
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:40,950
can actually open up neurological

1001
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:43,650
pathways in the brain so which case if

1002
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,110
GMT is generated within the brain the

1003
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:48,000
structures are already birth for it to

1004
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:51,180
be effective it is just a question of us

1005
00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:54,390
now discovering whether whether this is

1006
00:43:59,600 --> 00:43:56,790
actually accurately true and there is

1007
00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:59,610
strong evidence to say that it is now as

1008
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:01,520
you know Dharma for tryptamine is

1009
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:04,130
effectively one of the most powerful

1010
00:44:10,310 --> 00:44:06,930
hallucinogenic drugs known to man it has

1011
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:10,320
a cousin five meö DMT which is even more

1012
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:12,710
pelvis about six times stronger and

1013
00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:16,800
maybe five Ennio DMT is also in the

1014
00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:19,590
brain and I know a guy called James Eric

1015
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:20,550
has written a wonderful book called

1016
00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:22,410
tryptamine palace where he discusses

1017
00:44:28,340 --> 00:44:24,900
this but on top of this this gets

1018
00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:28,350
stranger because there is also another

1019
00:44:33,350 --> 00:44:31,740
writer called jeremy nabhi and a few

1020
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:33,360
years ago Jeremy nabhi wrote a book

1021
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:35,910
called the cosmic serpent and in the

1022
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:39,450
cosmic serpent Jeremy nabhi who is a got

1023
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:42,570
a doctorate in anthropology suggests

1024
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:46,010
from some of the ayahuasca dreams he had

1025
00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:49,920
that were consistent many many people

1026
00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:52,500
see snakes as part of the ayahuasca

1027
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:54,600
triin it's almost a standard it's an

1028
00:45:02,180 --> 00:44:58,530
archetype yeah this makes a DNA its DNA

1029
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:02,190
coils and not only that if you look at

1030
00:45:05,630 --> 00:45:04,050
the caduceus you know the kind of symbol

1031
00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:05,640
of medicine where you have that snakes

1032
00:45:10,250 --> 00:45:08,340
going round they're clear okay you look

1033
00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:10,260
at the top there's a pioneer gland at

1034
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:13,070
the top and the snakes go round the top

1035
00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:16,410
this is symbolic and it's symbolic of

1036
00:45:22,460 --> 00:45:18,900
the third eye of the pineal gland but

1037
00:45:24,050 --> 00:45:22,470
it's also symbolic of DNA and I believe

1038
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:24,060
and a lot of other researchers such as

1039
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:28,170
Jeremy nabhi such as Graham Hancock are

1040
00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:31,230
of the impression that DNA itself is

1041
00:45:38,060 --> 00:45:34,230
intelligent and the reason they believe

1042
00:45:43,450 --> 00:45:38,070
this is fascinating because one of the

1043
00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:43,460
major mysteries of ayahuasca is how the

1044
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:48,540
the natives of the Amazon basin

1045
00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:51,030
managed to bring together and mix

1046
00:45:57,590 --> 00:45:54,200
together two very different plants

1047
00:46:00,500 --> 00:45:57,600
banisteriopsis caapi and something

1048
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:00,510
called psycho Trofeo something or other

1049
00:46:04,580 --> 00:46:02,730
there are two very different plants and

1050
00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:04,590
they both have very very different

1051
00:46:14,450 --> 00:46:09,900
effects for instance the Van Asteria the

1052
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:14,460
the psychotropic contains DMT okay but

1053
00:46:19,099 --> 00:46:17,280
you can eat as many and drink or mash

1054
00:46:21,140 --> 00:46:19,109
these leaves together and eat as many

1055
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:21,150
and drinkers make a liquid out of and

1056
00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:22,890
drink as many of them as you like and

1057
00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:24,990
you will never ever have a DMT

1058
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:27,960
experience right the reason being in the

1059
00:46:35,170 --> 00:46:30,330
stomach is something called the ma o

1060
00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:35,180
inhibitor the mo no mo no ox no no I

1061
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:38,700
mean oxidant in our today's Yaga and as

1062
00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:40,980
you know that that effectively that

1063
00:46:48,260 --> 00:46:45,540
enzyme stops DMT being effective however

1064
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:48,270
the a constituents of the banisteriopsis

1065
00:46:55,820 --> 00:46:52,650
caapi the vine if you mix them together

1066
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:55,830
does the contents of the vine nullifies

1067
00:47:01,010 --> 00:46:58,290
the effect of the Mao in the stomach

1068
00:47:02,510 --> 00:47:01,020
which allows the DMT to then go through

1069
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:02,520
the stomach wall into the bloodstream

1070
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:07,410
and into the brain how was it that these

1071
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:10,650
people by complete and utter chance

1072
00:47:15,770 --> 00:47:13,170
there are 80,000 species of plants in

1073
00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:15,780
Amazonia at least they managed to find

1074
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:18,630
the two plants and I was told last night

1075
00:47:22,490 --> 00:47:20,460
by another person I was doing a radio

1076
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:22,500
interview with but these two plants

1077
00:47:29,150 --> 00:47:24,210
aren't even geographically close

1078
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:29,160
together they were asked by researchers

1079
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:30,690
as to why they were rain

1080
00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:32,130
why they came to this conclusion they

1081
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:34,859
said the plants told them they said the

1082
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:38,130
shaman's who don't need DMT or ayahuasca

1083
00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:39,690
to go into altered states of

1084
00:47:45,770 --> 00:47:42,119
consciousness communicated with the

1085
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:45,780
plants and the snakes and they told them

1086
00:47:51,260 --> 00:47:47,880
this is what you need to do bring these

1087
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:51,270
two things together this is DNA trying

1088
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:53,850
to communicate to one of its creations

1089
00:47:59,660 --> 00:47:55,890
to actually become more self-aware

1090
00:48:02,329 --> 00:47:59,670
itself because if DMT is within the

1091
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:02,339
brain DNA itself

1092
00:48:08,809 --> 00:48:05,700
wants us to evolve sufficiently to open

1093
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:08,819
up the DNA portal and the the

1094
00:48:12,670 --> 00:48:11,250
dimethyltryptamine portal within the

1095
00:48:20,839 --> 00:48:12,680
pineal gland

1096
00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:20,849
intriguing structure it is the only

1097
00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:23,519
structure that's within the brain

1098
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:25,140
although technically it's just outside

1099
00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:27,089
the blood-brain barrier but is not

1100
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:30,990
duplicated as you probably know virtu a

1101
00:48:35,839 --> 00:48:33,569
magda mother to hippocampus but the

1102
00:48:37,609 --> 00:48:35,849
pineal gland is not it's singular and

1103
00:48:41,059 --> 00:48:37,619
it's it's almost in the center of the

1104
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:41,069
the skull now what is less known is that

1105
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:45,210
at the 49th day of gestation the embryo

1106
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:47,910
as it's developing the pineal gland is

1107
00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:49,710
actually at the back of the throat and

1108
00:48:53,779 --> 00:48:52,140
it's only after the 49th day that the

1109
00:48:55,220 --> 00:48:53,789
pineal gland starts to move from the

1110
00:48:58,039 --> 00:48:55,230
back of the throat to the center of the

1111
00:49:02,870 --> 00:48:58,049
brain and as it does so it leaves a very

1112
00:49:07,819 --> 00:49:02,880
very tiny duct now there is something

1113
00:49:10,339 --> 00:49:07,829
that people experience and when they go

1114
00:49:13,130 --> 00:49:10,349
into very very deep trance State

1115
00:49:17,019 --> 00:49:13,140
it's called as the nectar of sublime

1116
00:49:19,309 --> 00:49:17,029
awareness and it's a maternity taste

1117
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:19,319
that people have when they go into

1118
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:20,880
altered states of consciousness when

1119
00:49:26,029 --> 00:49:22,410
they go there's or whether Yogi's or

1120
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:26,039
whatever it's DMT what is happening is

1121
00:49:31,819 --> 00:49:29,369
the DMT is dripping down the back of the

1122
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:31,829
throat from the duct from the DMT Glen

1123
00:49:34,579 --> 00:49:33,930
from the pineal gland into the back of

1124
00:49:40,569 --> 00:49:34,589
the throat

1125
00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:40,579
now Buddhists believe that the embryo

1126
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:45,630
becomes human or the soul enters the

1127
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,890
embryo on the 49th day of gestation now

1128
00:49:53,299 --> 00:49:51,599
that in itself is a phenomenal

1129
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:53,309
coincidence that's when the pinecone

1130
00:49:59,960 --> 00:49:57,450
starts to move but it gets weirder if

1131
00:50:03,410 --> 00:49:59,970
you go onto my website and if you look

1132
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:03,420
at and one or two videos out there that

1133
00:50:10,539 --> 00:50:06,450
are on about me on YouTube you will find

1134
00:50:13,099 --> 00:50:10,549
that I'm working with two Austrian

1135
00:50:14,850 --> 00:50:13,109
consultants one's consultant neurologist

1136
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:14,860
and other ones consultant psychologist

1137
00:50:19,230 --> 00:50:16,960
these two guys have invented a machine

1138
00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:19,240
called the limited light device locally

1139
00:50:26,130 --> 00:50:23,020
known as Rusia as medical people they

1140
00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:26,140
have devised this device using using

1141
00:50:30,990 --> 00:50:28,150
known knowledge of Neurology and how the

1142
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:31,000
brain functions with different forms of

1143
00:50:36,570 --> 00:50:34,330
light and stroboscopic light this

1144
00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:36,580
machine is powerful I have used it and

1145
00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:38,320
believe me and I have enough time to

1146
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:39,700
explain it now but it opened my own

1147
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:41,470
third eye I couldn't believe that these

1148
00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:43,090
things never happen to me but it did it

1149
00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:43,540
for me

1150
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:46,030
but the what is interesting is and if we

1151
00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:47,530
have time I will explain that but what

1152
00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:50,680
is interesting is is that in May of

1153
00:50:57,060 --> 00:50:53,590
three years ago dr. protocol and dr.

1154
00:51:00,450 --> 00:50:57,070
Winkler took a luthier over to laughter

1155
00:51:04,190 --> 00:51:00,460
in Tibet and they were invited over

1156
00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:04,200
there by members of the dream no-gun

1157
00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:07,990
tradition this is this is a a particular

1158
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,060
form of yoga that's practiced by people

1159
00:51:14,970 --> 00:51:12,880
of the bond tradition now the bond

1160
00:51:17,690 --> 00:51:14,980
tradition is the original shamanic

1161
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:17,700
belief system of the Tibetan Plateau

1162
00:51:24,030 --> 00:51:21,250
when Buddhism came up from the plains of

1163
00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:24,040
India being very syncretic it actually

1164
00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:25,840
took on board the shamanic tradition of

1165
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:27,790
the bond so the bond still believed a

1166
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:30,570
lot of shamanic things as well as normal

1167
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:35,770
Buddhism these guides they dream travel

1168
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:37,510
dream Yoga is traveling it's loosely

1169
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:39,490
dreaming in effect the want of a better

1170
00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:40,810
term and that's what they did they

1171
00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:44,200
astral travel a lucid dream these guys

1172
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:47,620
spend years being trained these guys sat

1173
00:51:52,850 --> 00:51:50,170
in front of the lucid light device and

1174
00:51:55,710 --> 00:51:52,860
within 20 minutes we're seeing mandalas

1175
00:51:57,810 --> 00:51:55,720
were were having sensations of moving

1176
00:51:59,090 --> 00:51:57,820
outside of their body everything that

1177
00:52:01,830 --> 00:51:59,100
their training had done

1178
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:01,840
so clearly it was being de kated with

1179
00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:04,000
the practitioners of this particular art

1180
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:06,280
but what was order was a couple of days

1181
00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:09,430
later angle Birds and dirt were

1182
00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:11,590
wandering around the palace they were

1183
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:14,230
and they came across a little room and

1184
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:16,450
they went into the room and inside were

1185
00:52:21,509 --> 00:52:18,910
glass cases these are glass cases were

1186
00:52:25,739 --> 00:52:21,519
these really strange objects

1187
00:52:27,269 --> 00:52:25,749
and because Dirk is a neurologist he

1188
00:52:29,509 --> 00:52:27,279
recognized the make they'd been there

1189
00:52:33,989 --> 00:52:29,519
for centuries they were ossified

1190
00:52:38,009 --> 00:52:33,999
modified elephants pineal glands these

1191
00:52:41,489 --> 00:52:38,019
people worship the pineal gland they

1192
00:52:44,509 --> 00:52:41,499
have known for centuries the power of

1193
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:44,519
this particular object in the brain

1194
00:52:51,089 --> 00:52:47,169
now you then start looking at the

1195
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:51,099
symbolism of the pinecone and when you

1196
00:52:55,799 --> 00:52:53,169
realize that the pineal comb pineal

1197
00:52:59,429 --> 00:52:55,809
gland is called the pineal because it

1198
00:53:02,370 --> 00:52:59,439
resembles a pinecone and you look at the

1199
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:02,380
pinecone symbolism you find it

1200
00:53:08,609 --> 00:53:04,569
everywhere there's a huge pinecone in

1201
00:53:11,579 --> 00:53:08,619
the Vatican yeah and on the staff of the

1202
00:53:14,219 --> 00:53:11,589
after Pope I do but let me ask you a

1203
00:53:18,269 --> 00:53:14,229
quick question about that yeah do you

1204
00:53:20,249 --> 00:53:18,279
think that as far as the Western culture

1205
00:53:22,919 --> 00:53:20,259
is concerned the overwhelming denial of

1206
00:53:24,059 --> 00:53:22,929
these alternative subjects and that even

1207
00:53:26,759 --> 00:53:24,069
like the banning of the psychedelic

1208
00:53:29,759 --> 00:53:26,769
experience do you think these things are

1209
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:29,769
by design by say manipulation of a

1210
00:53:34,799 --> 00:53:32,079
shadowy global elite like David Icke

1211
00:53:36,539 --> 00:53:34,809
would suggest or do you think these this

1212
00:53:37,799 --> 00:53:36,549
is just a natural progression of human

1213
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:37,809
thought that we're just not there yet

1214
00:53:41,849 --> 00:53:39,209
because a lot of these ancient cultures

1215
00:53:43,649 --> 00:53:41,859
seem to already have this in the bag and

1216
00:53:46,229 --> 00:53:43,659
then science is now confirming what

1217
00:53:48,449 --> 00:53:46,239
they've already believed I I'm in tune

1218
00:53:50,789 --> 00:53:48,459
lines about this I mean I I am in

1219
00:53:54,959 --> 00:53:50,799
contact with David Icke and David Icke

1220
00:53:57,059 --> 00:53:54,969
actually placed one of my BBC a filmed

1221
00:53:59,759 --> 00:53:57,069
me in a BBC interview actually on his

1222
00:54:01,469 --> 00:53:59,769
website and knife and he's keen to

1223
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:01,479
contact me and do some collaborative

1224
00:54:06,629 --> 00:54:04,569
work I don't go as far as David I'm not

1225
00:54:09,539 --> 00:54:06,639
somebody who is if you do of the theory

1226
00:54:11,370 --> 00:54:09,549
I don't but it doesn't mean that it's

1227
00:54:14,729 --> 00:54:11,380
that could be through sheer ignorance I

1228
00:54:20,669 --> 00:54:14,739
have to say because there does seem to

1229
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:20,679
be a kind of symbolism of this thing for

1230
00:54:24,809 --> 00:54:21,729
instance on the back of the one dollar

1231
00:54:26,699 --> 00:54:24,819
note when you see the all-seeing eye in

1232
00:54:28,499 --> 00:54:26,709
the center of the pyramid and the way in

1233
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:28,509
which the pyramid is detached into two

1234
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:31,649
parts this is Masonic symbolism now

1235
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:35,290
clearly to me secret societies have no

1236
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:37,690
about this and I think secret societies

1237
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:39,970
of all is not already all also known

1238
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:43,090
about my daemon a DeLong stuff because I

1239
00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:44,650
think that has been one of the hidden

1240
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,270
secrets for centuries I believe that's

1241
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:48,640
what the Holy Grail is to be honest it's

1242
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:51,280
not it's not a bloodline of Christ it's

1243
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:53,290
the fact that we are dual beings but

1244
00:54:58,140 --> 00:54:55,870
that's an aside but you know if you

1245
00:55:00,330 --> 00:54:58,150
think about it you know for social

1246
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:00,340
control what you don't want is people

1247
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:02,350
realizing that this reality we live

1248
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:04,930
within is not part of the total reality

1249
00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:07,690
it is a very small part of a greater

1250
00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:10,030
reality that you can go or inward and

1251
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:11,950
discover because of course social

1252
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:15,130
control and an capitalism would fail

1253
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:16,510
because suddenly we are not going to be

1254
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:19,690
consumers of television sets you know

1255
00:55:25,380 --> 00:55:23,410
I'm sure that Dennis McKenna and others

1256
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:25,390
have actually said this but the consumer

1257
00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:29,170
society needs us to consume things to

1258
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:31,840
keep us entertained but if I'm able to

1259
00:55:35,330 --> 00:55:33,250
entertain myself I don't need a

1260
00:55:37,620 --> 00:55:35,340
television I can go actually traveling

1261
00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:37,630
astrally to all these wonderful places

1262
00:55:42,030 --> 00:55:40,300
and the problem is economies would

1263
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:42,040
collapse because of course nobody would

1264
00:55:45,540 --> 00:55:44,110
be consuming anything and somebody has

1265
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:45,550
to prepare the food and do all these

1266
00:55:50,610 --> 00:55:48,220
other things to keep us going so I don't

1267
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:50,620
really know I would I would like to

1268
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:52,900
believe that it isn't it more by by

1269
00:55:57,090 --> 00:55:55,150
happenstance than actually specifically

1270
00:55:59,220 --> 00:55:57,100
wanting to keep people down and the

1271
00:56:01,980 --> 00:55:59,230
reason I say this is I'm being allowed

1272
00:56:03,630 --> 00:56:01,990
to get away with talking about this you

1273
00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:03,640
know and people that many friends of

1274
00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:05,260
mine who are into conspiracies have said

1275
00:56:09,570 --> 00:56:07,750
you have been noticed you will be

1276
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:09,580
noticed and you will be taken out soon

1277
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:11,110
because you're getting very very close

1278
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,110
to the truth now what is intriguing and

1279
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:16,000
I have to say this is that I have a

1280
00:56:19,830 --> 00:56:17,920
concept called the archons which is

1281
00:56:21,870 --> 00:56:19,840
going back to gnostic belief systems but

1282
00:56:24,270 --> 00:56:21,880
you know there are beings out there that

1283
00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:24,280
are apt to stop you doing things because

1284
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:26,470
it is bizarre that many of my radio

1285
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:27,970
programs that I've been doing

1286
00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:30,490
particularly in the last week some of

1287
00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:32,470
them have failed to function because

1288
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:34,150
Skype has gone down or there's being

1289
00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:35,710
these incredibly weird and wonderful

1290
00:56:40,140 --> 00:56:37,780
things that stopped it happening now I

1291
00:56:42,180 --> 00:56:40,150
think that's chance but Associates of

1292
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:42,190
mine are saying it's not chance there

1293
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:43,450
now spotting you and they're trying to

1294
00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:45,070
actually stop you talking about things

1295
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:47,740
so I don't know but I would say well why

1296
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:48,970
do they allow me to talk about

1297
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:50,710
why do they allow david icke to talk

1298
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:53,770
about things right you know why do they

1299
00:56:57,839 --> 00:56:55,390
like will and I will cop to talk about

1300
00:57:00,330 --> 00:56:57,849
the things he does you know clearly if

1301
00:57:05,339 --> 00:57:00,340
they are they're playing a very very

1302
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:05,349
deep game you know I agree I mean well

1303
00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:06,970
that's another thing like a lot of

1304
00:57:12,359 --> 00:57:08,950
alternative researchers refer to that

1305
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:12,369
twin slit particle wave experiment and

1306
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,410
they consider it evidence that we can

1307
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,000
alter and create our own experience

1308
00:57:20,550 --> 00:57:18,160
manifesting at will whatever you want

1309
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:20,560
which I personally have a hard time with

1310
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:22,510
in it it just seems too good to be true

1311
00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:24,130
you know like you talk about the astral

1312
00:57:30,089 --> 00:57:26,320
projection there's no reason to watch

1313
00:57:32,550 --> 00:57:30,099
television if you could just do that but

1314
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:32,560
if obviously it can't be that easy but

1315
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:33,910
as far as the manifest in your own

1316
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:36,910
reality from what I've heard you seem to

1317
00:57:41,970 --> 00:57:39,760
stop short of saying that you can do it

1318
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:41,980
that easily you can't I don't think you

1319
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:43,750
can but I suspect that all people that

1320
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:45,730
can do it and they keep it secret I

1321
00:57:49,950 --> 00:57:47,170
believe that there are probably people

1322
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:49,960
who are more advanced than we are in

1323
00:57:55,410 --> 00:57:52,090
these things and have been trained to do

1324
00:57:57,150 --> 00:57:55,420
it avatars for want of a better term and

1325
00:58:00,089 --> 00:57:57,160
I think these people are probably people

1326
00:58:01,859 --> 00:58:00,099
who have lived their lives over and over

1327
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:01,869
and over again till they've actually

1328
00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:03,730
lived the perfect life they're allowed

1329
00:58:09,390 --> 00:58:07,060
to move on to analogous lis the next day

1330
00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:09,400
we with Groundhog Day you know at the

1331
00:58:12,930 --> 00:58:10,750
end of Groundhog Day he lives the

1332
00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:12,940
perfect life and something allows him to

1333
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,220
move on and I think that certain people

1334
00:58:18,750 --> 00:58:17,440
if you look into Buddhism and various

1335
00:58:20,359 --> 00:58:18,760
other religions like that they will

1336
00:58:22,829 --> 00:58:20,369
argue that you can be reincarnated

1337
00:58:25,890 --> 00:58:22,839
reconnected to become an avatar and then

1338
00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:25,900
you can choose to either move on or come

1339
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:29,260
back and help your fellow human bit in

1340
00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:31,599
now maybe that eyes out there that can

1341
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:34,030
do that but coming back to your very

1342
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:35,290
very interesting point about the

1343
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,270
twinspace experiments and the nature of

1344
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:39,040
reality and reality being brought into

1345
00:58:43,380 --> 00:58:41,410
existence by the act of observation you

1346
00:58:45,420 --> 00:58:43,390
know I've always found when I've dealt

1347
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:45,430
with particle physicists particularly

1348
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:47,410
materials reductionist ones all you need

1349
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:48,970
to do to get them actually spitting into

1350
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:51,250
their beer and panicking like mad is to

1351
00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:53,890
turn round and say the observer effect

1352
00:58:59,460 --> 00:58:55,960
because they can argue til the cows come

1353
00:59:01,850 --> 00:58:59,470
home but a wave is a wave until it is

1354
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:01,860
measured and it becomes a point particle

1355
00:59:07,350 --> 00:59:05,200
you know that is a known fact you know

1356
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:07,360
they can't get away from that and it

1357
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:09,490
seems to be integrally tied up with an

1358
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:12,400
act of observation now this means in

1359
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:15,310
effect that if you were if if something

1360
00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:17,170
is not being observed is technically in

1361
00:59:22,050 --> 00:59:19,480
a state of superposition where it hasn't

1362
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:22,060
designed it were to be located in other

1363
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:24,370
words it has the option to be Tomic

1364
00:59:29,130 --> 00:59:27,010
parcel can be anywhere but effectively

1365
00:59:30,810 --> 00:59:29,140
when it's observed it has to make a

1366
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:30,820
decision to be in a point to place

1367
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,910
somewhere and it can be anywhere because

1368
00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:36,160
recently they found something called a

1369
00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:38,830
quantum Zeno effect and effectively

1370
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:41,230
subatomic particles if you continue to

1371
00:59:46,050 --> 00:59:43,990
look at them they don't collapse even

1372
00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:46,060
though they should you know and again I

1373
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:47,800
say to people don't believe me on this

1374
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:49,530
just look up the quantum Zeno effect

1375
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:51,970
it's one of the most amazing things you

1376
00:59:55,890 --> 00:59:53,680
will ever hear but it's never based

1377
00:59:57,810 --> 00:59:55,900
around all the newspapers it's never

1378
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:57,820
talked about on the BBC or on the

1379
01:00:02,490 --> 00:59:59,680
national radio or television for a very

1380
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:02,500
good reason because they want people to

1381
01:00:06,750 --> 01:00:04,510
believe in the science as it was 110

1382
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:06,760
years ago they want us to believe in

1383
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:09,100
utonium signs which is a very effective

1384
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:11,440
way of describing the reality we live in

1385
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,510
now the reality of large things but for

1386
01:00:20,370 --> 01:00:18,880
subatomic puzzles it doesn't work and

1387
01:00:24,180 --> 01:00:20,380
these are the things that make up the

1388
01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:24,190
universe around us and it's 99.999%

1389
01:00:29,250 --> 01:00:27,640
empty space and most of these may think

1390
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:29,260
you know ninety-four percent of it is

1391
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:30,550
dot dark matter

1392
01:00:39,150 --> 01:00:36,610
what's all that about yeah right raise

1393
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:39,160
this earth yeah I mean I find you know

1394
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,200
the more I get into this the more

1395
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:43,920
information I feel it's like a huge

1396
01:00:50,790 --> 01:00:47,650
crossword puzzle and the PCs are just

1397
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:50,800
falling in I mean when I experienced

1398
01:00:57,300 --> 01:00:54,970
during the event took place for me in in

1399
01:00:59,400 --> 01:00:57,310
Switzerland three years ago when I

1400
01:01:01,920 --> 01:00:59,410
encountered the lucid light device I

1401
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:01,930
cannot and I still cannot believe what

1402
01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:02,770
happened to me

1403
01:01:07,710 --> 01:01:05,980
I saw the astral plane

1404
01:01:11,310 --> 01:01:07,720
I have never had any kind of experience

1405
01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:11,320
like that the lucid light device encoded

1406
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:12,220
into my brain

1407
01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:13,480
I believe it then released

1408
01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:15,400
dimethyltryptamine in my palm oil gland

1409
01:01:22,830 --> 01:01:19,180
and I had an experience that I was

1410
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:22,840
somewhere else looking down on a planet

1411
01:01:27,420 --> 01:01:25,930
with a checkerboard pattern I got so

1412
01:01:31,050 --> 01:01:27,430
terrified I asked them to switch the

1413
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:31,060
device off I really got so scared it was

1414
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,890
Pavia traded against their no I haven't

1415
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:34,720
but ironically enough if anybody any of

1416
01:01:40,290 --> 01:01:36,970
your listeners out there likely to be in

1417
01:01:42,330 --> 01:01:40,300
London the last weekend of June and the

1418
01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:42,340
last few days of June and we have a

1419
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:44,500
lucid light device that's coming over

1420
01:01:49,380 --> 01:01:46,240
from Austria that will be with the four

1421
01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:49,390
days at the mind body and spirit

1422
01:01:53,370 --> 01:01:51,460
exhibition in London's Earls Court and

1423
01:01:56,070 --> 01:01:53,380
people will be allowed to use this

1424
01:01:59,340 --> 01:01:56,080
machine for free and on the Sunday I'll

1425
01:02:02,250 --> 01:01:59,350
be doing the presentation on the mind

1426
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:02,260
linking two to two these guys work

1427
01:02:07,050 --> 01:02:04,960
because it is powerful stuff but the odd

1428
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:07,060
thing I found was that after I used the

1429
01:02:11,150 --> 01:02:09,490
device within 20 minutes there was a

1430
01:02:14,070 --> 01:02:11,160
vibration in the center of my forehead

1431
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:14,080
which I could not explain and it

1432
01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:17,050
continued all through the night and it

1433
01:02:20,790 --> 01:02:18,609
was like a small little creature was

1434
01:02:23,010 --> 01:02:20,800
moving underneath the center of my

1435
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:23,020
forehead where Indian women were that

1436
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:27,430
little dot it raised there and since

1437
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:30,760
then it reoccurs occasionally but what

1438
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:33,010
is even weirder is thinks then something

1439
01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:34,690
else has manifested in my life that I

1440
01:02:39,590 --> 01:02:35,560
don't understand

1441
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:39,600
I keep hearing Morse code signals and

1442
01:02:45,030 --> 01:02:42,850
they seem to be located in certain parts

1443
01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:45,040
of the world for instance in my original

1444
01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:46,780
home on Merseyside near Liverpool

1445
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:48,940
I heard them regularly used to wake me

1446
01:02:57,900 --> 01:02:53,290
up I'm hearing you know harp HH ARP yeah

1447
01:02:59,640 --> 01:02:57,910
it's that I'm picking up home that's

1448
01:03:01,380 --> 01:02:59,650
your impression of harp there's a lot of

1449
01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:01,390
theories about what it's for or whether

1450
01:03:06,810 --> 01:03:03,670
manipulation or affecting consciousness

1451
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:06,820
well all I can say is that I'm pretty

1452
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:08,770
damn sure I hear it and we tested this

1453
01:03:13,650 --> 01:03:10,570
out now again if anybody's interested on

1454
01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:13,660
this again if you go on to youtube look

1455
01:03:19,350 --> 01:03:17,430
up Anthony peek and BBC you will get me

1456
01:03:22,110 --> 01:03:19,360
live

1457
01:03:23,850 --> 01:03:22,120
being recorded on a radio station with a

1458
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:23,860
film crew with me and I'm talking about

1459
01:03:30,690 --> 01:03:26,020
harp this is what David Icke picked up

1460
01:03:32,610 --> 01:03:30,700
and put on the front of his his website

1461
01:03:34,410 --> 01:03:32,620
because I described them in detail

1462
01:03:35,610 --> 01:03:34,420
exactly what I'm hearing now we found

1463
01:03:37,890 --> 01:03:35,620
that there's a harp facility on the

1464
01:03:39,810 --> 01:03:37,900
island of Anglesey which is about 20 or

1465
01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:39,820
30 or 40 miles away from where I used to

1466
01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:41,950
live I've just come back from Mauritius

1467
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:44,470
in in the South Indian Ocean I heard

1468
01:03:50,550 --> 01:03:48,310
nothing not a thing where I live now

1469
01:03:52,350 --> 01:03:50,560
I very occasionally very very

1470
01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:52,360
occasionally one night in a month I'll

1471
01:03:56,910 --> 01:03:54,430
hear it up on Merseyside I was hearing

1472
01:03:58,890 --> 01:03:56,920
it every night and it started at the

1473
01:04:01,500 --> 01:03:58,900
same time around about 4 o'clock and it

1474
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:01,510
finished at 20 past 4:00 now people have

1475
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:03,730
said it tinnitus I get tinnitus I know

1476
01:04:09,150 --> 01:04:06,610
what tinnitus sounds like it sounds like

1477
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:09,160
Morse code it's not but it sounds like

1478
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:11,170
it now is this because my third eye has

1479
01:04:16,530 --> 01:04:14,010
been opened is it because I'm now

1480
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:16,540
perceiving signals that I couldn't

1481
01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:18,970
normally perceive other people said I'm

1482
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:20,560
being targeted nicely don't be stupid

1483
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:23,230
why the hell would they be doing that so

1484
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:25,330
don't believe that for one minute so

1485
01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:27,430
there's an awful lot to this and all I

1486
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:30,280
say to people out there is get involved

1487
01:04:37,710 --> 01:04:32,910
with my work I'm on Facebook there's

1488
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:37,720
WWMT P com I also have an international

1489
01:04:43,230 --> 01:04:39,970
forum which is cheating the ferryman

1490
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:43,240
calm all these links can be can be met

1491
01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:46,570
but link up with me on Facebook join in

1492
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:48,190
we have people from around the world

1493
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:50,050
that are taking these ideas the most

1494
01:04:55,980 --> 01:04:53,200
amazing places thousands of people this

1495
01:04:57,570 --> 01:04:55,990
is a real groundswell movement and it's

1496
01:04:59,940 --> 01:04:57,580
building up and it's building up this is

1497
01:05:04,320 --> 01:04:59,950
the this is the fifth interview I've

1498
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:04,330
done in four days both to America into

1499
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:07,570
the UK this really is picking up picking

1500
01:05:13,290 --> 01:05:10,890
up massively and it has a truth to it

1501
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:13,300
sure it's fascinating stuff do you think

1502
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:15,330
this in any way

1503
01:05:22,140 --> 01:05:19,510
ties into 2012 with the awakening that

1504
01:05:24,330 --> 01:05:22,150
you know the New Age movement supposedly

1505
01:05:26,460 --> 01:05:24,340
says has taken place I'm an ties into

1506
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:26,470
the collapse of the global economic

1507
01:05:31,850 --> 01:05:28,810
system which is kind of coincidental but

1508
01:05:33,770 --> 01:05:31,860
at that time I'm not a great lead

1509
01:05:37,550 --> 01:05:33,780
in 2012 and I think an awful lot of

1510
01:05:40,430 --> 01:05:37,560
people who are pointing out the 21st of

1511
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,440
the 12 12 is going to be some kind of

1512
01:05:45,380 --> 01:05:42,000
significant date I think it's very

1513
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:45,390
dangerous to be making such predictions

1514
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:46,890
because it's going to be profoundly

1515
01:05:51,290 --> 01:05:49,680
embarrassing when nothing happens when

1516
01:05:54,050 --> 01:05:51,300
when I was at university I study

1517
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:54,060
millenarian religious movements and the

1518
01:05:57,290 --> 01:05:55,710
whole points of millenarian religious

1519
01:05:58,850 --> 01:05:57,300
movements is they predict the end of the

1520
01:06:02,090 --> 01:05:58,860
world the one thing that has been

1521
01:06:03,350 --> 01:06:02,100
consistent or a great change the one

1522
01:06:04,790 --> 01:06:03,360
thing that's been consisted with all

1523
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:04,800
those movements is they've all been

1524
01:06:09,350 --> 01:06:08,130
wrong all right and I think there's

1525
01:06:10,910 --> 01:06:09,360
going to be an awful lot of embarrassed

1526
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,920
people when it doesn't happen of course

1527
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:12,960
if it does happen I'm going to be proven

1528
01:06:18,860 --> 01:06:16,410
wrong now I really don't know I really

1529
01:06:20,750 --> 01:06:18,870
don't know about this and clearly there

1530
01:06:24,380 --> 01:06:20,760
is there is something happening and I

1531
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:24,390
think there is an opening of awareness

1532
01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:26,970
in people I'm perceiving it when I do my

1533
01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:29,160
lectures more and more people are

1534
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:31,080
becoming interested in this and I think

1535
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:32,970
humanity is splitting into two groups

1536
01:06:39,350 --> 01:06:34,650
that's the groups that really want to

1537
01:06:41,300 --> 01:06:39,360
carry us forward in a more dynamic dare

1538
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:41,310
I say more spiritual way and I'm

1539
01:06:46,220 --> 01:06:43,530
blinging together spirit spiritual

1540
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:46,230
beliefs and science in an in an

1541
01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:48,410
amalgamation that can take us forward

1542
01:06:54,650 --> 01:06:50,400
and there are those people that are

1543
01:06:57,500 --> 01:06:54,660
tenaciously tying themselves in knots

1544
01:07:00,530 --> 01:06:57,510
trying to explain a universe that cannot

1545
01:07:04,580 --> 01:07:00,540
be explained by basic Newtonian physics

1546
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:04,590
and you know they're the ones that are

1547
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:07,050
desperately out of the out of place they

1548
01:07:11,420 --> 01:07:08,610
are the ones that are making the

1549
01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:11,430
mistakes that scientists made a hundred

1550
01:07:15,770 --> 01:07:14,040
and ten years ago before Einstein came

1551
01:07:18,650 --> 01:07:15,780
along and before Max Planck came up with

1552
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:18,660
his theory of the quantum of energy they

1553
01:07:23,810 --> 01:07:20,730
thought they knew everything but they

1554
01:07:26,030 --> 01:07:23,820
didn't they had problems they had issues

1555
01:07:27,530 --> 01:07:26,040
with blackbody radiation they had

1556
01:07:29,810 --> 01:07:27,540
problems with the photoelectric effect

1557
01:07:33,050 --> 01:07:29,820
these things did not fit in

1558
01:07:36,290 --> 01:07:33,060
they were black swans it didn't fit in

1559
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:36,300
we have black swans now superposition

1560
01:07:40,609 --> 01:07:38,250
the observer effect

1561
01:07:42,830 --> 01:07:40,619
but be the binding problem in the brain

1562
01:07:46,190 --> 01:07:42,840
the hard problem that david chalmers

1563
01:07:49,310 --> 01:07:46,200
says as to how inanimate neuro chemicals

1564
01:07:52,310 --> 01:07:49,320
can bring about you and i with inner

1565
01:07:54,170 --> 01:07:52,320
lives and memories you know i'm not a

1566
01:07:56,060 --> 01:07:54,180
collection of neuro chemicals and

1567
01:07:59,060 --> 01:07:56,070
electrical impulses that happen to think

1568
01:08:00,349 --> 01:07:59,070
I'm Anthony peek you know I'm not I'm

1569
01:08:02,270 --> 01:08:00,359
more of an agreement with tae ha de

1570
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:02,280
Chardin that I am actually a spiritual

1571
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:08,240
being having a physical life sure right

1572
01:08:12,530 --> 01:08:10,290
crazy stuff man that pretty much brings

1573
01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:12,540
us to the top of the hour so I mean my

1574
01:08:16,249 --> 01:08:14,430
brain is pretty much out of juice for

1575
01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:16,259
the day I try every buddy's brains

1576
01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:19,560
believe me I do well thanks so much I'm

1577
01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:21,420
super grateful one more time where

1578
01:08:24,380 --> 01:08:22,799
should people go to get your books and

1579
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:24,390
keep up with your work right okay my

1580
01:08:27,709 --> 01:08:26,130
books you can get my books in most book

1581
01:08:29,870 --> 01:08:27,719
shops across the United States and

1582
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:29,880
Canada you if you can't if the book

1583
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:31,290
shops haven't already got the mean you

1584
01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:32,880
can order them from the book shops you

1585
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:36,719
can order them on Amazon UK amazon USA

1586
01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:39,810
amazon canada you can also if you wish

1587
01:08:45,019 --> 01:08:42,900
go onto my website anton peek calm and

1588
01:08:47,900 --> 01:08:45,029
look at the books for sale if you want

1589
01:08:51,019 --> 01:08:47,910
me to send you personal signed copies

1590
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:51,029
and I charge the same as the the book

1591
01:08:55,599 --> 01:08:53,160
shop price not Amazon price for book

1592
01:08:57,709 --> 01:08:55,609
shop price and just post and packing

1593
01:08:59,920 --> 01:08:57,719
there and by ordering the books that

1594
01:09:02,150 --> 01:08:59,930
where you really do help me keep going

1595
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:02,160
so if you want to order books that's

1596
01:09:05,930 --> 01:09:04,290
fine and I'll send copies out to you but

1597
01:09:08,690 --> 01:09:05,940
you can get them anywhere you can also

1598
01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:08,700
get them on Kindle and in fact my new

1599
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:11,910
book is already charting on Amazon in

1600
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:13,489
the UK it got to number one in the

1601
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:16,290
parapsychology section on Kindle two

1602
01:09:22,849 --> 01:09:18,000
days ago and it only came out three days

1603
01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:22,859
ago so just join in read the books give

1604
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:24,450
me your opinions if you think it's a

1605
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:26,730
load of rubbish tell me and because

1606
01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:27,779
that's what it's all about

1607
01:09:35,180 --> 01:09:31,759
I'm not a guru I'm just an ordinary man

1608
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:35,190
dominant well thanks pip and keep

1609
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:36,960
exploring the infinite abyss come back

1610
01:09:40,039 --> 01:09:38,250
any time there's so much more to talk

1611
01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:40,049
about any time to walk back and more

1612
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:42,150
than happy to I can go for hours there's

1613
01:09:46,020 --> 01:09:43,690
so much into this

1614
01:09:49,950 --> 01:09:46,030
sure thanks so much have a good day okay

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